With the driver chosen I did a search on the internet for existing plans in hopes of finding a fellow DIY'er that has figured everything out for me. Removed all of the Fiberglas® except for a 6" x 12" piece directly behind the driver. I found the speakers to sound the best to me with a toe in so the intersection was about a yard or so in front of my couch. Glue that and center it onto the rear of the speaker magnet. There's enough choice in tuning them that you should be able to make them sound good to you too. The high frequency extension was a little weak, but thats what my plasma tweeters are for. I think any glossy cardboard could be used instead.This worked perfectly. A waveguide with compression driver is used instead of a dome tweeter. Finally I ended up hacking the hole out with my jig saw. You begin with two 4' by 8' sheets of mdf or plywood. This is a very easy enclosure to build. Here's the front with the stringers clamped and glued. Let me reiterate: The wings and the pressure screw plus the RS 40-1354 drivers are the only things that I added to the standard Voigt Pipe design from the site of the Lowther Club of Norway. The Audax HT210A2 full range drive unit is a real bargain.....i.e., cheapie! Place the cabinet on its back and screw down the baffle. On top of the 8" hole is the wing-shaped baffle: basically a rectangle 14-1/4 inch wide by 10-3/4 inch tall by 7/8 inch thick in my case. Cutting Driver Holes Too Wide ... Well ... so much for precision (see section above). 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I have since tried quite a few 8" drivers in the baffle of the pipes, and it seems that my intuitive guesses have turned out to be useful ones. The rest is easy. Due to the single driver, they are lacking a bit in bass and treble, however, this is easily fixed with a little bit of equalization, or bass management at louder levels. The internal wiring with slip-on terminals. Lets face it, sound does not like flat angular surfaces and the curve has made a real big difference to both the bass quality and also to the mid range and imaging too. Only the upper section of the pipe above the driver, is lightly filled with acoustic damping whilst the area directly behind the driver is lined with 3/8" wool felt. (I haven't tried them with SACD.) Since the high frequencies will have to be rolled off to avoid localization such speakers can be built with a single driver. Thanks Steve L. for the bondo suggestion. Such drivers require some reinforcement in the lower mid/upper bass to counteract the baffle loss and hence benefit from the partial and slight horn loading provided. But that in NOT why I have it presented here. Currently I run my recently-built single ended triode amps (Svetlana 811-10) with my Voigt Pipes and really deem myself lucky to have arrived at a really good sounding system so easily. NOTE: You now have two panels with the cut line draw on the inside of one and the outside of the other. The final stuffing configuration is moderately firmly pack polyfill (simply because I tried the Miraflex® first, and there is no need to change back), from the top to 2" below the driver: Glue and screw the baffle to the sides and top. To damp any reflections back through the driver, a 6" x 12" pad of 1/2" yellow Fiberglas® is placed directly behind the driver. The midrange definition and presence is amazing. A speaking tube in use on a United States Navy Landing Craft Utility (2005) A speaking tube or voicepipe is a device based on two cones connected by an air pipe through which speech can be transmitted over an extended distance. Basically the numbers and response curve didn't seem to suggest that I was doing anything too terrible and off to the drawing board I went. I wanted a material that was ready available at Home Depot and would still be eye-pleasing with minimal effort and expense. Spread it with a finger, making sure the entire edge is wet. A good friend of mine had me go demo a pair of Von Schweikert speakers which had a rear firing tweeter. I had not realized just what Dynamics were before this, I did not know what it was like to experience the total integration of tweeter and mid in a crossoverless format. I ended up only using one dowel to stiffen the 'middle' of the sides below the driver. you're done. The cure would be for me to get a subwoofer. To move the speaker to the left wall, you must specify a negative value . I put screws on 6" centers. My guess is there's a glob of caulk stuck to the top of the box stalactite style. Fs = 71.5 Vas = 7.3 liters Qts = .49 Qms = 3.85 and he notes: These should be enough to get you started. You may view my design notes here: (Although, they are not neat). Forget it!) This means the "parasitic" and normally unwanted resonance of a classic port is desired. Each enclosure receives three coats of fast drying semi gloss polyurethane varnish from a spray can. Spray the entire cabinet with primer. It's very easy! The internal dimensions are determined so that the throat area is equal to the driver Sd and the mouth area equal to 4 times Sd. Set the tiles and let the whole thing set overnight. Ok. In terms of sonics, I put these pipes against my reference speakers and...........they very easily held their own. But boy does it finish nice. The backs were hinged so that I could adjust stuffing, felt, etc. Hear the brilliant midrange that makes instruments like the piano come alive or the sound of the strings being strummed on a classical guitar. My drawing of the Voigt Pipe with dimensions in inches: When I built the Voigt Pipes I used good grade 3/4" chipboard, but now that I found out how well this design performs I must recommend a good grade plywood. All in all it was a good lesson in how little I know and how smart others are. Nice, no? If memory serves me, they are superior to the Diatones I built by a fair margin, although both speakers shared many of the same advantages, the pipes being much better in the bass and throwing a much larger stage. The TQWT is really good at a few things. I found the design in February of 2002 while co-oping in California, but I didn't have time to build them until I was back home in Massachusetts. Needless to say, I've been looking for a simple, high-sensitivity, low anxiety full range project for quite a while since foolishly selling the Diatones, and after speaking to Jonathan, was convinced that the Voigt pipe might be a good way to go. Same goes for finding the holes for the drivers after you are done veneering. This sort-of works, but is not good for imaging. Not having any experience with finishing MDF, this part of the project turned into a real adventure. The next few days brought further confirmation of them and they ran in and after a couple of week I suddenly realized that I was listening to more music that I have been of late. I enjoyed veneering. Instead of troublesome tuning, two or more pipes can be employed in one enclosure, possibly even with different drivers. More experienced DIYers will tend to build their speakers out of a material that is "better" acoustically, and then laminate or paint the cabinets to their liking. I drew that curve by hand on one baffle and copied over to the other baffle. I used Silicon glue for that. Careful with the thin ends of the triangles! Can you post a schematic of the cross-over? Therefore, TQWT cannot be successfully represented by only one of factors involved. Some day when I get a more powerful tube amp I'll fiddle around with the speaker level BSC circuit recommended on Martin King's site but for now I'm pleased without it. One of the vertical sides coincides with the vertical edge of the Voigt pipe. You want to end up with the 8-3/4" by 71" triangle but cut the short rectangular crosscut after the diagonal cut is satisfactory. Those little battery powered saws are useful for small jobs like this, but their endurance is about one cut, then you have to recharge. The boxes sounded great, very fast and accurate, clear and happy without discoloration that I could hear. In any case, now one pipe will have a "peak" wherever the other has a dip. In the end the project cost a pretty penny by DIY standards ... mostly due to the Lacewood but they turned out well. I have not found a good way to do it until today. Pick one panel and mark the cut line on the opposite side. So, one day I took the time to follow every link and lead I could find via Google and I copied text and images to my local web site. Sorry, not for me. Save the scrap piece. THOR is a transmission line floor-standing system that uses two W18E001 woofers and a single T25CF002 "MILLENNIUM" tweeter mounted in a D'Appolito configuration. Three sets of values for each design offer a reasonable spread of loud- speaker choices. Fit the case, drill, countersink, screw, unscrew, glue, screw instead of fussing with a thousand clamps. A little easier to construct and more stable too. Then you rip the boards to the desired width. I attempted to run the totally overwhelming math cad spreadsheets from Martin King's quarter wave web site and put in my own figures for this design. Lay out the triangles on that board in such a way that your diagonal cut starts an inch or two away from one end of the board. 94dB efficiency Voigt Pipes featuring Fostex FE166E drivers, with styling features inspired by the Cain & Cain Abby. The 40-1044s' range is perfect for vinyl, CD, and movies, but they are a bit lacking when it comes to using them with DVD-Audio. In this image, the DIY black metal pipe stand holds a heavy speaker. I chose pine because of its appearance, price, and simplicity. I'm still inconclusive about the center channel. They don't have great high frequency extension, but I didn't mind because I wanted to use my plasma tweeters for the highs. Place that piece of scrap you saved from cutting the back panel :-) between the sides near the bottom. That includes a pressure screw from the rear of the cabinet against the backside of the driver magnet. After I graduated from WPI, I found the time to construct the remaining three pipes to make a complete surround-sound set. The idea was that putting a drive unit half way down a pipe you'd get a bass resonance that would boost bass output. Gio Post subject: Re: PVC Pipe Speaker Project with HiVi B3N / T20-8. The original Pipe used a horizontal base, well and good but as you have seen I then tried the base plate at an angle to create a reflector. In reality, all three alternates represent the same loudspeaker mechanism with different cone suspension compliances. Surfing the inter-net for speaker projects, I looked at many but shied away from complicated vented boxes, transmission lines and crossovers with associated math. Demo a pair of Von Schweikert speakers which had a rear firing tweeter weak, but is not for. 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